“Too Young for Cancer”: How to Treat The AYA Patient Population

Lost in Translation: Unique Challenges of AYA Cancer

AYA cancers affect survivors at extremely pivotal transitional periods in their life.  

Older adults will have challenges associated with their cancer diagnosis.  But consider this important distinction:

Many of our older patients have been working for several decades, own a home, are in a committed relationship, & have established social support networks.  

On the other hand, AYA patients may still be developing these social networks & building their careers &/or families (for another great episode on AYA Oncology, listen to Ep. 243 with Scott Capozza).

Zooming in on the AYA Experience – From Their Perspective

This CSM session with Scott, Eric, Leanna, & Bri is perhaps one of the most unique & insightful – because each of these phenomenal speakers are cancer survivors themselves.

Humanizing the AYA experience by including patient voices & personal stories is one of the most impactful ways we can become a better OncoPT for these patients.   The session aims to promote an open mindset, dispel fear, and encourage PTs to work with AYA patients.

Mark your calendar for ON-17708 I’m Too Young for Cancer: Addressing the Needs of Adolescents and Young Adults With Cancer!

This APTA-CSM session will take place on Thursday, February 15, 2024 at 11am.

This session will be available on-demand (& will be recorded live at the conference).

About the Speakers

Scott Capozza, PT

Scott Capozza, MSPT, serves as the physical therapist for the multi-disciplinary Smilow Cancer Hospital Survivorship Clinic at Yale Cancer Center and is also Yale New Haven Hospital’s first dedicated outpatient physical therapist in oncology rehabilitation. Scott was among the first class of board-certified clinical specialists in oncologic physical therapy in the country and also serves on the Oncology Specialty Council through the ABPTS. He currently is the Membership Engagement and Leadership Development Chairperson for the American Physical Therapy Association’s Academy of Oncologic Physical Therapy. He is also serving as an adjunct professor in Oncology Physical Therapy for both Sacred Heart and Quinnipiac Universities in Connecticut.

Follow Scott on social media: @ScottCapozza

Dr. Eric Galvez, PT

A golfball sized cerebelo-pontine meningioma brain tumor ended Eric Galvez’s physical therapy career almost 2 years after starting it in San Diego, CA. He has established a new career in patient advocacy by creating two unique nonprofit organizations, “mAss Kickers Foundation “ and “disability Guerrillas”. He has also published 2 books about his experiences as a young physical therapist turned neuro-oncology patient and patient turned nonprofit executive. He currently serves as: the Membership and Communications Chair for APTA ONCOLOGY Balance and Falls SIG; APTA liaison for the APTA MICHIGAN Oncology Rehabilitation SIG; and World Physiotherapy: IPT-HOPE website manager.  He hopes to: strengthen the relationships within the APTA BALANCE & FALLS TRIALLIANCE(Academy of Neurological Physical Therapy BF SIG, APTA GERIATRICS BF SIG, and APTA ONCOLOGY BF SIG) continue promoting the importance of Fall screenings in the Oncology population; and continue to grow the reach of the APTA ONCOLOGY Balance and Falls SIG within the Physical Therapy profession and the oncology patient community.

Follow Eric on social media: @EricGalvezDPT

Dr. Leanna Blanchard, PT

Leanna Blanchard PT, DPT, received her Doctor of Physical Therapy degree from The George Washington University in 2015, and subsequently completed her orthopaedic residency at Johns Hopkins Hospital/The George Washington University. Leanna is a Board-Certified Clinical Specialist in Orthopaedic Physical Therapy, and was recognized as a Fellow of the American Academy of Orthopaedic Manual Physical Therapists in 2018 after completing her manual therapy fellowship at the University of Illinois at Chicago. Leanna is also a Certified Lymphedema Therapist. She is currently an Assistant Professor in the DPT program at North Central College. Her scholarly interests include the impact of movement on the lived experience of DPT students, breast cancer survivors, and patients with chronic pain.

Follow Leanna on social media: @AffirmationsFromCancer

Transcript

Elise – @TheOncoPT (00:00.778)

Hey Onco PT and welcome back to this episode of the Onco PT podcast. Now continuing with our CSM preview sessions, we have another dynamic panel of speakers who are going to be talking to you all about a very, very special subpopulation of our oncology patient population. And that session, if you’re looking for it on the CSM website is called, I’m Too Young for Cancer, Addressing the Needs of Adolescents and Young Adults with Cancer. And so if you already know about the session, you know I’m super excited about it. If you don’t, friend buckle up because we’re in for a real treat this evening. All right. So first speaker of our panel tonight is our beloved Scott Capozza Welcome back to the Onco PT podcast.

Scott Capozza (00:41.221)

Thanks, Elise. It’s always great to be here. And really, thank you for taking the time and using your platform to be able to elevate all these different amazing speakers that we’re going to have coming from around the country to present in the great city of Boston.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (01:00.064)

So next up we have another return guest from the Onco PT podcast, Eric Galvez. Welcome back to the Onco PT podcast.

Eric Galvez (01:09.105)

It’s great to be here. Looking forward to it. So looking forward to the session. So, yeah Scott, thanks for inviting me.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (01:18.13)

And then we have a new guest on the Onco PT podcast. We have Leanna Blanchard. Welcome, we’re so excited you’re here.

Leanna Blanchard (01:26.223)

Thanks, I’m really excited to be here and again, kudos to Scott for putting us all together and connecting so many awesome people.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (01:34.67)

All right, I’m gonna go off script already, but I think it’s a good question to start with. How did this panel of speakers, we’ve got one more who can make it this evening, but how did this particular panel of speakers come together on this very wonderful and important topic?

Scott Capozza (01:53.589)

I started to try to plant these seeds when we were in San Diego earlier this year. It was my first in-person combined section since we had all been in Denver. So it was nice to see so many familiar faces, but to also see so many people who I had only really connected with online. I had never met Leanna before in person. I had never met Eric before in person.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (02:07.296)

Mm-hmm.

Scott Capozza (02:21.893)

And Brianna DeWitt, who is our other co-presenter who couldn’t be with us for this recording, you know, I had been following her on Instagram for a while, you know, learned her story. And so I kind of went to each of you kind of individually. And I said, you know, I feel that, you know, the adolescent and young adult population, which abbreviated as the AYA population, kind of gets lost in transition.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (02:25.193)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (02:31.325)

Mm-hmm.

Scott Capozza (02:51.397)

because they’re not pediatric and they’re not the older adult population. And so there’s so many transitions that go on. And especially for any of the students that are listening right now or the new professionals, anybody who’s in their 20s and their early 30s, they can appreciate all these different transitions that are going on. And then if you throw a cancer diagnosis into that, then it just throws a multirection and everything and it just delays all of those things from happening. So I kind of went to each

Elise – @TheOncoPT (02:58.111)

Mm-hmm.

Scott Capozza (03:22.538)

to Leanna and to Bree and to Eric individually. And I said, what do you think about this? And they all said, wow, this sounds like it’d be a fun idea. So that’s how it all kind of started. It was just making those personal connections, which I really, I think is one of the strengths of what we do and Onco PT is these personal connections.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (03:30.279)

Mm-hmm.

Eric Galvez (03:44.814)

Yo, I’ll-

Leanna Blanchard (03:44.967)

And do we want to tell them the real reason you brought us all together, Scott?

Scott Capozza (03:50.881)

No, go ahead, Leanna. You can tell them what the real reason is.

Leanna Blanchard (03:54.203)

So Scott buried the lead a little bit here, but so we are all actually AYA cancer survivors, all four of us that are on this panel. So it’s a pretty unique thing, I think, to be connected with one, just other young cancer survivors in the first place, let alone other young cancer survivors that are also PTs is pretty remarkable. So like Scott said, we had never met in person, but we’ve been following each other on Instagram. I had been following.

our other speakers on Instagram and just chatting online. And so to meet them in person, well, I’ve only met Scott in person at this point, but to get connected with these people that have shared a lot of similar experiences was very cool.

Eric Galvez (04:37.005)

Yeah, I’ll just say at the end, I totally agree with Liana, because I was diagnosed in 2005, so there was nothing. There was absolutely no AYA group, no anything. And then to actually meet physical therapists, who are also survivors, that was a big deal for me. Got me really excited. I was like, yeah, just show me where to be, and I’ll be there.

Scott Capozza (05:02.613)

Yeah, and so that’s what we’re hoping to give our audience and to give those who come to our session is that, yes, we’re gonna put on our PT hats and give the didactic portion of that. But then the second half of our session is going to be a much more intimate Q&A, a panel discussion amongst the four of us. So we’re gonna kind of switch gears and put our survivor hats back on.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (05:26.387)

Oh my god.

Scott Capozza (05:31.045)

Um, you know, because, you know, we were, yes, we’re, you know, we’re, we’re PTs, you know, we have MSPT or DPT at the end of our names, but, you know, one of the things that you can’t change, um, as part of the fabric of our identity is, is being a cancer survivor.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (05:45.102)

Mm-hmm. Scott, you queued this nice, this very nice segue into the next question for me, which is, you know, if you’ve ever been to CSM before, you know that most of the education sessions are two hours long and they tend to be very lecture style, right? You know, there’s a topic and you lecture for approximately an hour and maybe 45 minutes and then there’s like a 10 to 15 minute question and answer session at the end. But it sounds like you’re kind of changing that up a little bit. Why?

more of this emphasis on the question and answer conversation at the end of the session when putting on your patient hat versus, you know, like coming to this purely from a physical therapist professional lens.

Scott Capozza (06:34.229)

I think it’s important that the patient voice is heard at these conferences. I don’t think that we do a good enough job within our profession of elevating the patient voice. And so if this can be kind of a spark, so to speak, I think that would be really important. But I also think it also humanizes us.

you know, beyond being PTs. Like we all like, yes, we all show up at combined sections and we’re all excited to see each other and we’re excited to go to the sessions or excited to go, you know, to all the things that are going on, you know, and it’s being a PT that brings us together. But we all have lives outside of that. We’re all going to go back home to Texas and we’re going to go back home to Michigan and to Indiana. So, or into Hawaii, right? And so what do our lives look like?

Elise – @TheOncoPT (07:28.31)

Yep.

Scott Capozza (07:30.545)

when we’re not at CSM for three, four days. And again, I think that that’s what our hope is. And Eric and Leanna, I wanna chime in because I wanna know what you both think. But I think that this is, again, it’s an opportunity to do something dynamic, to do something different, and maybe to think about in the future, how…

Can we as PETs, how can we elevate that patient voice?

Eric Galvez (08:07.733)

So Lian, do you want to chime in? Or? Okay, sure. Yeah, I think the patient voice is something that is definitely something that needs to be promoted, especially with APTACSM. Cause like, I mean, I’ve been in the nonprofit sector for gosh, probably about 17 or 18 years. And like, you know, just the personal stories of patients.

Leanna Blanchard (08:10.909)

You can go first. Yeah.

Eric Galvez (08:37.929)

or survivors even, you know, that carries so much weight. I think versus just lecturing about, you know, young adult survivorship, you know, honestly, you know, to me as a student way back when, that would just go in one ear and out the other, but to actually have someone there that has experienced everything, that definitely sticks a lot more.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (08:59.922)

Mm-hmm.

Leanna Blanchard (09:01.263)

Yeah, I would piggyback off of exactly what Eric said. I think it’s, lecturing has its place. And you know, that type of education and learning has its place. But I really think that in the healthcare fields and PT specifically, that having one active learning strategy, so using discussion, using Q and A is much more impactful for participants. And then also just like they’ve both mentioned, like that patient perspective, that real life storytelling.

personal experience, I think one makes it stick a lot more, and two makes it more meaningful. So if I sit in the classroom and I tell you a story about John Smith who had this diagnosis and yada yada, like you know maybe a student will get something out of that, maybe they won’t. But if I sit there and I share my story with my students and I relate it back to the clinical concepts that we’re learning, you can believe that they’re gonna take a lot more from that. So I think that’s part of what we’re hoping to do.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (09:58.284)

Mm-hmm

Scott Capozza (10:00.389)

And Leanna, as a professor, I’m sure you can appreciate that. You’re right. If you bring patients into your classes, if you bring them into your labs, that’s what your students are going to remember more, rather than some made up case. Even if we’re using cases from our own clinical practice. But if you bring a real person in who shares their stories of struggle and how they’ve had to go through.

And again, this doesn’t just apply to us as oncopetes. Like it could be, you know, in the neuro population, it can be in the petes population, it can be in the ortho population, it can be in any population that we as petes treat. So yeah, I just think that it’s just gonna make it that much more real for everybody.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (10:46.318)

Mm-hmm. So speaking of real, it’s already, you know, potentially, depending on how you feel, it can be very vulnerable going up and presenting on a stage at a conference as big as CSM. But there’s an added layer for y’all of not only are you obviously the professionals who are treating these patients, but you’ve also gone through this yourself.

Was there any hesitation or any, you know, just concern about like, not only am I going up and presenting on a very large stage, this is really important information, but also like I’m sharing of myself and my personal story that we don’t necessarily always put out into the world like that. How, you know, was that something that y’all thought of or, you know, you’ve come across as you’ve prepared for this session?

Leanna Blanchard (11:39.363)

can start that. I, when Scott proposed this idea, I did not hesitate. I jumped right on it and said I think this is an awesome idea. Partly because at CSM last year, I had actually gone to a panel discussion of PT’s that had all dealt with some sort of life changing diagnosis at some point or another that impacted their transition away from clinical work and into something else. And I found that really interesting.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (12:00.223)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (12:06.66)

Oh, yeah.

Leanna Blanchard (12:08.707)

I found it very real and very inspiring that they were willing to share what those pathways looked like for them. As someone that made a transition from more clinical to more academic work, I found that really impactful. So I did not hesitate until, I don’t know, sometime later we were all chatting about what questions we might ask and Scott said, is there anything that’s off limits? And then I was like, wait a minute, I didn’t think about that. Maybe there are some things I don’t wanna share,

Elise – @TheOncoPT (12:21.194)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (12:35.67)

Hehehehehehehe

Leanna Blanchard (12:38.575)

You know, when it comes down to it, I personally have sort of chronicled my experience on social media and have found a lot of community in that and have found myself able to give back to the breast cancer community through my knowledge as a PT. And that’s been really empowering and healing for me. And I think this is just another way to do that. So it is, you’re right, it’s very vulnerable, but it’s nothing that I haven’t shared publicly before.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (12:53.186)

Mm-hmm.

Eric Galvez (13:10.613)

Can I just piggyback on that? I think I’ve met a lot of young survivors online through social media like you have. And unfortunately, many of them have passed away. And that was pretty hard for me. So I’ve kind of taken a backseat to the social media stuff. But I’m slowly starting to get back into it. So I’m very glad that we’re bringing this up because this population definitely is neglected. So I’m very glad to be…

Elise – @TheOncoPT (13:21.987)

Yum.

Eric Galvez (13:39.733)

a part of this presentation at CSM.

Scott Capozza (13:44.889)

Yeah, and I think that, you know, we’re in an age now where, you know, if you feel comfortable disclosing it, then you do put it out on different platforms. You know, obviously there are individuals who feel more private about that, and we totally appreciate that. And trust me, I was in that situation myself, you know, in the early years of my diagnosis.

I think for us, we’re not newly diagnosed. So we’ve had a little bit of time to kind of reflect on our journeys into survivorship. And what does that mean? What does that look like? And what are the ups and downs that we’ve had to traverse through all of that?

Elise – @TheOncoPT (14:35.431)

Mm-hmm.

Scott Capozza (14:37.617)

But I also do think again, that it’s, whenever we do share our stories on whatever might be, if it’s on Instagram or if it’s going to a classroom, I go back to my alma mater, I think a college every year to tell them my story. Again, to make it real, to say that I sat in that seat. Right? I went to all the same bars that you all did, right?

Leanna Blanchard (15:05.083)

Hehehehehehe

Scott Capozza (15:06.701)

And they still have some of the old professors that I still had, that I had back then, right? And so I think it can also be a teaching tool as much as anything else to say that, yeah, I’m one of you and I still got cancer. So it becomes a teaching tool as much as anything else.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (15:09.038)

I’m sorry.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (15:21.898)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (15:33.794)

So we’ve talked about a lot of reasons already, but why do you think, as a speaker of this session, why do you think it’s so important for attendees to go to your session?

Scott Capozza (15:52.397)

I think it’s important that for the participants who show up or who if they listen to it on the on-demand, which again, yeah, our course will be on-demand. We are going to be recording it live. The discussion amongst the four of us, we agreed that being able to record it live was going to be more authentic than for us to try to pre-record it, but regardless, it will be recorded and it will be on-demand. So whenever you access it, of course we’d love to see you live.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (16:01.022)

Oh nice. Very nice.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (16:16.782)

Totally.

Very nice.

Scott Capozza (16:23.469)

that the needs of the adolescent and young adults are multifactorial and to understand what those concerns are, to understand the different transitions that the young adults face and how those are interrupted by the cancer diagnosis. And being able to then talk about for us as PTs,

what we can do, again, and we don’t necessarily need to have all the answers as PTs, not to give anything away, but I tell my students that by and large, most of your PT interventions for an AYA are going to be similar to somebody else. If you’re treating a 30-year-old with breast cancer, the manual…

techniques, the stretching, the range of motion is going to be very similar to what you’re doing to somebody who’s 60 years old who has breast cancer. But there are the other layers. There are the other things that you need to be cognizant of like fertility preservation, body image, financial toxicity that are all much more a concern to the AYA at the age of 30 than at the age of 60 or 70.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (17:26.076)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (17:47.83)

Mm-hmm.

Scott Capozza (17:48.529)

So if we can heighten that awareness and have our PhDs be able to ask those questions when they go back to the clinic on Monday, that they will be more cognizant to be able to ask those questions and be more aware of that, I think that’s a win.

Leanna Blanchard (18:06.443)

Yeah, I think I echo all of that. And I think the thing that I really hope that attendees are looking forward to and that they eventually get out of it if they attend or watch the on demand, is that exactly what Scott said, it’s not that the treatments are going to be any different, but it’s the lens with which you approach it. And getting people to understand what that lens might look like, and how that lens has to shift from patient to patient. You know, a personal

piece here is that I started treating patients with breast cancer before I was diagnosed. And I had a couple AYA breast cancer patients and I pre-cancer me said some things that I look back and was like, I would have smacked someone if they said that to me. And, you know, I’ll never forget that because I often think, okay, how did that patient feel when I said whatever blissfully ignorant thing I said, because I wouldn’t have felt good about that.

I’m hoping to impart, again, that lens of how you approach these patients and how you are curious and sensitive and open and helpful with their needs.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (19:31.442)

Eric, anything you want to add on why you think it’s so important for people to attend this session?

Eric Galvez (19:38.861)

I think Scott pretty much nailed it. So I mean, like I think that, you know, anything I say is just going to be echoing what he said. So like, you know, the main thing is that I think a lot of participants at CSM are going to be able to relate to all of us. So I think that’ll make it a whole lot more powerful.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (19:58.445)

Yeah.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (20:05.39)

excited to, one of the things that I know because I’ve known Scott and Eric previously and I obviously met Leanne for the first time tonight is everybody was kind of in different stages of your PT career when you got the diagnosis and I’m really excited to hear that and I don’t know if that’s necessarily something that is going to be like explicitly addressed in your conversation but I do think that is going to be interesting to pull out from listening to

this really important talk. So that’s something I’m excited about that I was just thinking of like, everybody’s been, everybody has a little different kind of timeline here. And I think that’s really, really interesting. So as we kind of close out today.

What is one thing or maybe a couple things that you want attendees to take away from your session? Like they walk out and they say, that was the best session that I’ve ever been to at CSM. I’m gonna go back to my clinic or my hospital on Monday and I’m gonna implement these things, or I’m gonna feel better about X, Y, Z. What are those one to two things that you want people to take away? I’d be like, oh, this was it.

Scott Capozza (21:18.494)

Anybody want to start with that one?

Leanna Blanchard (21:22.909)

I think for me it would be…

an open mindset or a growth mindset around working with AYAs and not feeling stumped when an AYA walks into the doors of your clinic.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (21:31.363)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (21:40.214)

Yeah. Oh, I like that a lot.

Eric Galvez (21:43.765)

For me, it’s just that, you know, cancer can happen to anyone. I mean, don’t just brush it off. You got to make sure that you screen for it. And like, you know what the warning signs red flags are, you know? So, you know, I think that’s very important.

Scott Capozza (22:02.773)

I would say a couple of big things would be first and foremost, don’t make assumptions. Just because this person walks in the door and they’re 28 years old, say, oh, you’re 28 years old, you’ll bounce back just fine. I’m sure we’ve all heard that ourselves. You can’t make assumptions. Again, we don’t need to have…

all of the answers, but to know what those resources are. To kind of keep them, okay, I’m really gonna date myself here, but to keep them in your Rolodex of resources, you’re laughing, I see you Elise, you’re laughing at me over there.

Leanna Blanchard (22:40.359)

Thanks for watching!

Elise – @TheOncoPT (22:44.814)

It is!

Scott Capozza (22:46.378)

Oh good, at least you know what it is. I don’t know. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Leanna Blanchard (22:49.487)

These days it’s just called an iPhone.

Scott Capozza (22:56.625)

Keep it in your iPhone, keep it in your old ex, whatever. Keep it on the sticky note. I don’t care. But to have resources like triage cancer, to be able to help with the finances, to have the resources like First Descent, to have great podcasts to listen to, like I’m too young for this shit, right? Like who has been on this show before, right? Right? Exactly. Love them.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (23:11.042)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (23:19.266)

Love that. Love them. Yes.

Scott Capozza (23:25.533)

so authentic, they are so real, you know, in telling their stories. And so to know what’s out there, you know, and to be able to connect our AYAs, because our AYAs, they’re not going to go to a support group and sit in a room with people who are 30 years older than them, because they’re in a different life stage. They cannot relate going to a support group where people…

Are their parents age? Their needs are different. And so that’s why we need to, again, we answer your point, keep an open mind, allow for growth. These patients might actually be your age if you’re a young clinician, right? So how can you make those connections? And then what are those resources that you can connect our AYAs with?

Elise – @TheOncoPT (23:56.75)

Mm-hmm.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (24:19.578)

Oof. Yes.

Leanna Blanchard (24:20.239)

add one more thought if I may. I think another thing that I’m really hoping that attendees get out of this is to not be afraid of working with people with cancer in general and of working with AYA’s. I think historically we do a really good job of saying that cancer is a contraindication to everything. I feel like that’s kind of the running joke in PT school. And it’s just simply not really true anymore if you look at all the evidence and if you consider

best practice and clinical reasoning. So like Scott said, we’re not gonna have all the answers. We can’t possibly have all the answers, but if we can get people to not be afraid of putting their hands on these patients and talking to these patients, of working with these patients, exercising these patients, and we can at least get you to have an open mindset about it, you’re gonna change some lives.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (25:13.326)

I’m gonna add on to that one more bit, Liena. So I know Scott has heard this because I’ve told him previously, but something I haven’t really shared a whole lot about on the podcast is there was a time period in my career, like a couple of years ago, where I was treating a lot of AYA patients. And I was very much like…

Oh my God. First of all, kind of speaking to Eric’s point previously of these young people have cancer, like my age and younger, which was frightening, but then also like, what do I do with them? And was kind of operating under the, what Scott mentioned of like, you know, they’re young, they’ll bounce back. And, you know, unfortunately they didn’t because that’s just not how the body works sometimes. But I had one really, really cool patient.

She was mid-20s at the time and everything, and I worked with her for a few months. And eventually, I left the facility and I lost touch with her. Fast forward, she found me. She is now a practicing clinician. She is now a CLT, and she is getting into oncology rehab. And so to build off of Leanna’s point, there’s a real opportunity here to make a really, really special difference with this patient population. And you never know, they might go from your patient to a fellow colleague pretty soon,

dang cool. And I think that just speaks to kind of this AYA experience of like, their whole life is potentially like, at their fingertips, you know, ideally, we’re getting them into this long survivorship phase, like, this, this young person that I worked with now has so much more of her life to live. And I think that is something that

Sometimes when we’re working with our older patients, we don’t always think of like, you know, my 65 year old patient were retiring You know, we’re entering our golden years, you know, we’ve probably got a couple decades or so left I mean this young person hopefully has another 60 to 70 years of life And how do we kind of plan for that and think about that and just zooming out to get a much more?

Elise – @TheOncoPT (27:17.442)

big picture of kind of what the patient is experiencing, all of this with an open mind. And so, last up, last little kind of logistics questions. We already talked about your session is going to be recorded live at the conference, which is pretty dang cool, and then available for on demand later. When is the session? So I can block it off on my calendar, y’all.

Scott Capozza (27:39.697)

Well, it just so happens that it’s so conveniently right after your session, Elise. You are, I mean, you, it’s funny, Elise, the times that I’ve worked with you and you’ve had me on for the cancer rehab community, I hit lead off, but at CSM, you’re hitting lead off. You were the very first one at 8 a.m. on Thursday, right? So you are the lead off hitter now.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (27:59.711)

You hear it in?

Elise – @TheOncoPT (28:03.55)

I know it’s kinda scary.

Scott Capozza (28:09.573)

is exciting. So we follow you in the lineup. We are Thursday the 15th at 11. So the lunch time hours. So bring your lunch and come hang out with us. Don’t have a room yet. I’m sure they’ll give us a room at some point. But yeah, so yeah, so a shameless plug for you. Go to Elise’s Talk from 8 to 10 and then you got time to run to the bathroom, grab a coffee, and then come hang out with us at 11.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (28:26.498)

that, yeah, I’m sure.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (28:39.747)

That’s true. And meet some really cool people, like who we have on the interview this evening, in the hour beforehand, and then just jump right into your session. Love that. Okay, last question, I pinky promise. Where can people find you and connect with you? If you’re comfortable sharing your socials, please do so now. If not, just say, no thanks, Elise. I appreciate the offer.

Leanna Blanchard (29:07.635)

You can find me on Instagram. My handle is affirmations from cancer. That is my sort of personal, where I share a lot about my cancer story, and then also a lot of PT relevant things. So that’s best place to find me.

Eric Galvez (29:25.977)

Yup, and I’m on Facebook, Instagram, and X, I guess. It’s Eric Anthony Galvez, so yeah.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (29:33.496)

Oh yeah.

Scott Capozza (29:39.197)

I’m gonna do a shout out for Brie, who’s our co-presenter as well. Is she, I think she’s just Brie Dewitt on Instagram, is that right?

Elise – @TheOncoPT (29:43.566)

Yeah.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (29:52.402)

It’s something along those lines. I will of course find it for sure. And then link to it in the show notes also. Because obviously we definitely want, again, I know Scott mentioned it briefly, but Brie DeWitt is also presenting on this amazing panel. She has also been on the podcast. She is amazing. So we’ll definitely link to her. Cause yeah, she’s another really good one to follow on the gram for sure.

Scott Capozza (30:15.109)

Yeah. I think she’s Brie. Okay, Leanna, you got it.

Leanna Blanchard (30:17.143)

She is, uh, mm-hmm. Yeah, she’s brie.d.pt.

Scott Capozza (30:27.261)

Oh, I’m real original. I’m just at Scott Capoza at Instagram, Facebook, and then whatever Twitter X is called these days.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (30:27.658)

Alright Scott.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (30:38.95)

Perfect, love that. And like I said, I will link to all that in the show notes so y’all will be able to click on that and be able to follow each of these amazing speakers, especially in preparation for their really, really exciting CSM session that I have been looking forward to for a really long time. Scott did actually tell me about it, like right after San Diego. So I knew it was coming down the pipeline, but it’s really exciting that now it’s like official. We are counting down the days. We’re two months at the time of this recording.

away from it so it’s almost here y’all. I’m so excited! Oh my god.

Scott Capozza (31:12.569)

It is very exciting and it’s just going to be so exciting to see everybody again in person. Like, you know, we all got our dopamine hit by seeing each other in San Diego. And, you know, so we’ll be able to get a little more of that when we see when we see each other in two months in Boston.

Elise – @TheOncoPT (31:30.442)

Yay. Well, Scott, Eric, Liana, thank you so, so much for coming on the podcast and talking about your CSM session. Very important, very necessary, very long overdue to have this kind of a conversation at CSM, and I’m really, really glad that y’all are leading the charge on this. So thank you so much for spending your evening with me, and thanks for coming and talking to my listeners about this. I’m really, really excited for this session, and I know that they are too.

Leanna Blanchard (31:58.407)

Thanks for having us.

Eric Galvez (31:59.941)

Exactly, thanks for having us.

Scott Capozza (32:01.893)

At least you’re the best. Thank you for all you do.

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